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 Post subject: 2019 CB650R
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:22 pm 
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Tidy looking bike.

The 1974 CB400F style headers are a work of art.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2018/november/honda-cb650r-2019-unveiled/


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 CB650R
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:50 pm 
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Suppose it's all right. :(

Better looking than a Yam or a Kawasaki, still too Manga for my taste.

Wonder how it stacks up with our ancient Hornets, performance wise ?

http://www.hondaprokevin.com/2018-honda-cb650f-review-specs-naked-cbr-sport-bike-streetfighter-motorcycle-650

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 CB650R
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:43 pm 
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Wonder how it stacks up with our ancient Hornets, performance wise ?


Yeah - I guess they have upped the displacement to 650cc to compensate for the loss of power/extra weight required to comply with the latest emissions regulations?

Would be interesting to look at the performance stats - put the torque and power curves side by side and see the differences.

The overall looks are pretty average - but the headers are gorgeous.

Although not to your taste :angel - in my opinion the best Japanese bike styling department over the last decade has to belong to Kawasaki - possibly because prior to this in the 90's early 2000s they were producing some really unattractive looking bikes (apart from the ZX7R) and were trying to make amends - they got their mojo back with the ZX6R B1H and the 2003 Z1000 and have been getting better ever since.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 CB650R
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Best looking bike Kawasaki ever made was the 350 S2 triple, along with the original Z1, downhill ever since, IMHO.

Apologies for my earlier post, that linked to the 2018 CB650. I clicked on the MCN link to the 2019 bike, but that site didn't like my adblocker, so I didn't go there.

Paper version of MCN has arrived through letterbox since then, and I do take your point, the 2019 bike is a tad better looking. Still think the headlamp is a bit weird, doesn't quite match the old school look, and I can't see the point of those wings either side the radiator.

From the specs, similar weight and power output to the original Hornet, so on balance it's probably a bit quicker, with better brakes and handling.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 CB650R
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Yeah - those classic Kawasakis are very good looking bikes.

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and I can't see the point of those wings either side the radiator.


Yeah - I hate form over function - particularly on motorcycles - if it doesn't do anything it shouldn't be on there.

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From the specs, similar weight and power output to the original Hornet, so on balance it's probably a bit quicker, with better brakes and handling.


Interesting - I guess they had to bore out an extra 50cc to make up for loss of power due to emissions restricting equipment? Which means if you junk the catalytic convertor or whatever extra crap they put on bikes these days and fit a power commander you could be looking at a considerable power hike and weight reduction on the standard bike?


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