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 Post subject: Honda hornet 250 / Diary
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:13 pm 
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got my hornet 250 way back October 2011

and I will need a lot of time to bring her back to glory

here are the flaws or defects that I noticed

1. rear shock needs repair or replace
2. upholstery ( to replace or repair seats)
3. fuel filter needs replacement (previous owner used fuel filter for car)
4. gauge panel is for Honda Super 4 14k rev limit
5. no air filter
6. need to repaint
7. need to change sliders
8. radiator has a manual switch for the rad fan
9. chain roller needs cleaning and lubrication
10. to replace battery
11. to replace hand grips
12. need to tune up the bike, sync carb, oil change

from the previous owner's garage
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shot from my friend's place, with his Honda Civic at the background
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this is not acceptable, I will replace this gauge panel, this one is from a honda super four

will post more pics about the changes that I made... like

1. bought new air filter K&N
2. bought new ngk cre8h-9 plugs
3. replaced the seat cover with sticky seat covers
4. replaced hand grips with kitaco hand grips
5. replaced the kitaco hand grips after a few months, now using GIVI hand grips
6. changed oil filter and engine oil (shell 10w-40w semi synthetic)
7. replace radiator coolant with STP green coolant
8. replaced rear shock with a temporary china made shock worth $80
9. d.i.y body paint and removed all the stickers including the oem hornet sticker
10. replaced roller chain
11. replaced 60w headlight bulb to white light 35w
12. replaced fuel filter ( still using fuel filter for cars )
13. replaced battery to 12V 5 amps motolite, cant find any yuasa 7amps
14. registered the bike, all papers legal, legit.. etc...
15. replaced bike's horn went back to OEM


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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 11:46 pm 
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old oem hand grips

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old paint on headers

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old worn out seats

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cracked slider and old oem engine paint

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I would just like to compile all the changes I made and will make on my hornet...

thanks for viewing...

I'm planning to do diy rim painting... sports bronze like the rota wheels


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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:31 pm 
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new paint on engine using high temp bosny 1200 f (gloss black) with new sliders

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d.i.y paint job using dupont urethanes
I tried hiding the oem lining on the rear fender, take a look at the new seat cover pic, the last one.. you'll notice that originally there was a line oem design, just dont want that lining anymore...
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installed Kitaco hand grips

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new paint on headers using Carplan VHT Made in UK :)
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new sliders NO CUT

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new sticky seat cover

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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:24 am 
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Nice work!


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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
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Keep it up :)


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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:58 am 
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Now thats a nice come back... You should go for Ultra Low Renthal handle bars too...

Did you take the engine out to Paint it?

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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:13 am 
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here are more pics, I changed the engine paint to RJ london high temp 1200f black semi gloss

not too shiny not too flat

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full body shot ( sorry I'm just using a 2mega pixel cam phone, myphone ts1 duo )
this shot was taken from my wife's place in dasma, philippines

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will soon post the new GIVI™ grips that I installed

thanks for viewing.. and all the suggestions and comments... I would just like to document my project online...


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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:18 am 
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venomafiax wrote:
Now thats a nice come back... You should go for Ultra Low Renthal handle bars too...

Did you take the engine out to Paint it?



Veno,

I'm way too lazy, didn't remove the engine, I just used up old newspapers to mask the other parts.. I'm planning to change the engine and headers color for the third time in 5 months... my VHT™ flameproof is about to arrive...

no plans with ultra low renthals... but if you can post a pic about it.. I might go on drooling and look for one..hahaha, I'm planning to do custom bars, one piece lower than oem but would still look like oem or 2 piece handle bars like the ones you see on suzuki bandits...

will soon d.i.y rims and frame... swing arm etc.. right now I have a problem on my front forks...they are leaking not too bad, but I hate leaks... I followed the trick with sealmate... the leaks got worst...most likely I need a new oil seal and dust seal... will cost me $110 for parts, labor, gas and my food while waiting...

I will also try and post a video about my project...


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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:04 pm 
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Love your work! Where in the world are you?


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 Post subject: Re: My Project Hornet
 Post Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:26 pm 
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cinders wrote:
Love your work! Where in the world are you?


Philippines... same with reiluke...

by the way I just cleaned my $10 worth roller chains (Imarflex brand :eek ) with kerosene and oil bath

been using it since nov 2011


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 Post Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:44 am 
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My VHT™ flame proof 1200f - 2000f ceramic paint just arrived

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there are no imitations or fake vht brand paints right?

this one says here made in usa, has part number at the bottom.. will post pics later...

now I will just have to wait for my previous engine / headers paint job to flake off or fade... I think they won't flake off, they are at 1200f already but not a ceramic paint... I may need to do soda blasting or sand blasting...

now I'm doing laundry it is 9:43am here :rollin

finished doing laundry

I removed the Kitaco hand grips like a month ago..replaced them with GIVI hand grips...soft grips (givi retails at $7 at motoworld.com.ph)

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most of my hex screws.. I replaced them with allen type

left side panel cover
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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:59 am 
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This is a great thread. It's giving me lots of ideas for my bike.

How is your frame? Any rust at all? I'm about to strip my bike down and inspect the frame. I would love to have it powder coated or re-spray it.


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 Post Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:47 am 
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cinders wrote:
This is a great thread. It's giving me lots of ideas for my bike.

How is your frame? Any rust at all? I'm about to strip my bike down and inspect the frame. I would love to have it powder coated or re-spray it.


I think my frame is still in good condition... not too many rust.. just saw one near the tool box.. will try to take a shot and post pics... I guess the most rusted part of the frame will be the one near the rear shock... coz I don't have a rear tire hugger... would love to have one.. but no ready cash yet... hehehe


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 Post Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:04 pm 
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I replaced my radiator coolant and just top up with distilled water after that

I started seeing some leaks...

as per reiluke's advice, I removed the radiator cap and let it run for a few minutes, bubbles (air) came out...

top up with distilled water... closed the rad cap and test drive.. leaks disappeared


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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:44 am 
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replace old worn out screws...

used allen type stainless

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replaced other hex bolts

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my current rear shock from motorstar z200 ( cost me only $70 )

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my oem springs after sandblasting

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after repaint

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trying to fit my oem springs to the current damper, unfortunately it is too bouncy and low seat height

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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:41 am 
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Love your work bro! Keep the pictures coming!


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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:20 am 
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I really like the shiny red spring! Wish mine would be looking so nice!
Can you please post some more details or even pictures on how you disassembled/reassembled the spring?! If the procedure is not too complicated, I would like to do the same. Maybe you could even post some simple guide in the DIY section!?

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 Post Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:21 am 
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Borschtsch wrote:
I really like the shiny red spring! Wish mine would be looking so nice!
Can you please post some more details or even pictures on how you disassembled/reassembled the spring?! If the procedure is not too complicated, I would like to do the same. Maybe you could even post some simple guide in the DIY section!?


I had to consult a machine head (machine shop man to remove the oem springs, you will need a hydraulic machine to press it )

the yellow one which is from a z200 zongshen china bike is much easier to remove no need for jacks or hydraulics... I just use clothsline and cable ties...

I was watching the whole time on how they removed the red oem springs... you will have to use car jacks or any hydraulics to press the springs, once compressed you need to use a clamp, a cable tie or anything that can hold the springs together securely... for you to remove the oem springs...

there is a hidden bolt inside the oem shock...

I will post pics later... about the hidden bolt... the china z200 mono shock doesn't have a plastic cage like a shock boot or something.. so with that you can easily remove the bolt inside grab an open wrench and yank the other side..( while the spring is being compressed by clamp, cable tie or anything that can hold the springs compressed )


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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:23 am 
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Thanks for the details! Sounds like it's rather difficult for me to do this myself with almost no tools.

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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:42 am 
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here is a shot of our oem mono shock disassembled...

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the hex bolt is hidden inside the tower like shock boot thing.. it is made of plastic...

you need to compress the springs far enough and hold it securely for you to see the hex bolt...

the problem is if you don't have the an open wrench long enough and the springs snapped

say goodbye to your finger... be extra careful while removing the springs...


this how my current replacement mono shock looks like when removed

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as you can see there is a metal bushing..for this one to fit on our 250... the metal bushing cost me $8 usd ( machined shop )

so far it works much better than the BUSTED oem mono shock :rollin


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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:30 am 
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you can buy spring compressers they are great tools even ask a mechanic if you can borrow some for beer


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 Post Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:11 am 
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replaced the fuel screen filter (originally meant for cars, installed by previous owner)

replaced with fuel screen filter for motorcycles... looks much better

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by the way I opened up the old one... and it does work... it can filter out dirt.. had this car fuel screen filter for about 6 months...

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the black dust like thingy...are the dirt that was filtered ...


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 Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:59 am 
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pre you have way too much free time to work on your hornet.... keep it up :clap


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 Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:38 am 
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reiluke wrote:
pre you have way too much free time to work on your hornet.... keep it up :clap


You helped me a lot Master Reiluke... thanks for posting all those pics and links on our local site...


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 Post Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:16 pm 
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Great work, keep it coming! I wish I had some extra time to work on my hornet!

Have you thought about CBR954 tail light modification? :)


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cinders wrote:
Great work, keep it coming! I wish I had some extra time to work on my hornet!

Have you thought about CBR954 tail light modification? :)


yeah just like with borschtch hornet... but no money yet...

or maybe I can make the 2 tail light bulbs to work and act as a brake light and turn lights...

I just have to find a bulb that has triple purpose hahaha


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 Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:10 pm 
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The CBR954 tail light is only $30 from Hong Kong.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smoke-LED-Motor ... a0&vxp=mtr


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 Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:22 pm 
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The CBR954 tail light is only $30 from Hong Kong.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smoke-LED-Motor ... a0&vxp=mtr


lot of parts in hong kong right? hhmm I should start saving and by next year december hope that I can shop and look for gauge panel, levers, rotors, brake pads, signal lights, tail lights, tire hugger, roller chain, sprockets, head light assembly...


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 Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:33 pm 
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Installed generic bar ends, just trying it out if its ok..will soon replace it with chromed ones

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bought a chain tool for only $5 this will greatly help me with decreasing chain links

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this how my stock handle bars look like...

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replaced the stock with this one, a lil bit lower

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replaced my front signal lights with small ones...



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might replace the front signal lights with medium size...

by the way after I replaced my front signal lights.. the lights blink much faster..

is that just ok? or should it be the same way like before?


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 Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 1:36 pm 
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your stock handle bar is not the original one is it? coz it seems a bit higher than what ive got on mine..

Yes the signal lights will blink faster only if you are using a lower voltage bulb. Ive got the same problem on mine... I got rid of my front signal lights as the stock ones were too big and i am yet to find a small blinker... and in the mean time my rear lights blink really fast... its kinda funny... but also looks cool! :angel

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 Post Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:55 pm 
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venomafiax wrote:
your stock handle bar is not the original one is it? coz it seems a bit higher than what ive got on mine..

Yes the signal lights will blink faster only if you are using a lower voltage bulb. Ive got the same problem on mine... I got rid of my front signal lights as the stock ones were too big and i am yet to find a small blinker... and in the mean time my rear lights blink really fast... its kinda funny... but also looks cool! :angel


the old one must have come from a super four? so the new one I have right now... is the one closer to the original handle bar of hornet 250?

I'm worried about the relay clicking much faster... I have another pair of signal lights.. not too small and not too big... will test fit them next time...

thanks for the info veno...


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 Post Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:29 am 
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managed to fit my OEM springs on a different shock (damper)

and here's how it looks like now..way much better than before...

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I've lost one of the allen caps.. so I just decided to take em all out and replace the allen bolts with stainless ones...


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where in the world can I find the cover for the allen bolts on our grab bar?


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ive got one missing too... so i cut a piece of circular plastic and sprayed that and the rest of the Caps... GOLD! :angel

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 Post Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:06 pm 
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venomafiax wrote:
ive got one missing too... so i cut a piece of circular plastic and sprayed that and the rest of the Caps... GOLD! :angel


can you post a picture about it?


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I think this signal (turn) light is much better than the previous one

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any suggestions? or comments about the turn lights?


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 Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 4:37 am 
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They look good.

I bought mirrors with indicators built in - so will remove my original indicators.


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They look good... im looking for something small toooo...

The stock ones were very ugly... so ugly that i just cut the wires off with a scissor and sold them... :angel .. YUP ive got no Indicators now...

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 Post Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:22 am 
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@ venomafiax

try the yamaha YBR turn lights they look great, but OEM are expensive

I bought my turn lights $1.50 / pair, I need to work on my rear turn lights they wont fit right away have to custom fit them...

and same thing veno.. the lights were blinking much faster, which I like... hope that there won't be any problems on lights blinking much faster

@cinders

that's a good one side mirrors with indicators... can you post pics?


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time to clean my roller chain..again... :Bang

kerosene bath

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dirt after second kerosene bath, much better if you keep on using kerosene, til
the black color is gone, after kerosene bath, dry the chains using clean cloth, towels etc..

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then comes the oilbath for 1 hour or more...

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my D.I.Y abba stand, no abba stands for sale here in PI, so I just hired a machine head to do it for me... not good as the original abba but this one works for me..I can now remove my rear mono, rear tires, roller chain, and swing arm...plus I can also remove the front tire, yes the front tire

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 Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:31 am 
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measles...measles... they are all over my body...

so to kill some time.. I replaced my rear turn lights... forgot to post the complete set

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