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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:07 pm 
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Hi there

Just wondering:

Is it possible to fit a 2005/06 Hornet 600 oem rear shock showa mbz-c51 to a 1998 Hornet 600?

Is it possible to fit a 2003/04 Hornet 600 oem rear shock showa mbz-k31 to a 1998 Hornet 600?

After doing a lot of research I'm guessing the answer is no but would be grateful if someone on the Hornet's Nest (the best source of information on the Honda Hornet) could confirm that oem rear shocks from 2003 onwards will or will not fit the 1998 Hornet.

Many thanks in advance for any advice.

(Incidentally for anyone who wants to know the 1998 to 2002 Hornet was fitted with a showa mbz-611)


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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:13 pm 
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yes to both questions 8o

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:37 pm 
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Cheers for the incredibly fast reply Steve! - much appreciated.

So the 2005/06 showa mbz-c51 will bolt straight onto my 1998 Hornet without having to fit any spacer/shims any modification etc?

I'm just about to buy one so I really appreciate your advice :D


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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:48 pm 
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only difference is the 06 is around 3mm longer than the earlier shock. just watch the fitment of the bottom shock mount on the bearing sleeve! you might have to shim the sleeve to bottom mount bracket to stop the bracket distorting/snapping when tightening the mounting bolt! or you could buy a bearing sleeve for the newer shock when you get the shock :)

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:50 pm 
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Yes,

I fitted one of those Italian Ebay white shocks to my 99 (meant for a 2003 bike)

Only thing i had to do was purchase a 2003 lower mount bearing sleeve (Part number 52464-KPE-900) which including postage was under £10.00 from David Silver, because the 99 bearing sleeve was slightly too long for the 2003 shock and i didn't fancy grinding it down.

This thread might be of some help... (2 pages worth)

Towards the end of the first page (second from last post) there is talk of grinding the sleeve down or more dodgy spreading the fork end of the shock tp accomodate the 99 sleeve... then on the second page Richard sensibly suggests purchasing an 03 sleeve !! which i did :D

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=27423

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:59 pm 
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Thanks so much for the absolutely first rate advice Steve and Biggabit - I really appreciate getting the benefit of your knowledge and experience - the Hornet's Nest is certainly living up to it's excellent reputation! :clap

I've seen a 2005/06 Hornet 600 oem rear shock showa mbz-c51 - the bearing sleeve is the same part number as the 2003 shock (Part number 52464-KPE-900) so it should fit ok.


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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:53 pm 
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I took a picture of me measuring the 2005/06 rear shock ''eye to eye''.

I measured 302mm...

https://ibb.co/kGVDhwg

I found some specs for the rear shock of all models but it doesnt agree with my measurement :Bang

https://ibb.co/hsZvbnw

so WTF ???


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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:00 pm 
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Str8 Edge wrote:
I took a picture of me measuring the 2005/06 rear shock ''eye to eye''.

I measured 302mm...

https://ibb.co/kGVDhwg



your measuring "eye to bottom of shock" not "eye to eye" 8o

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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:02 pm 
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Is the difference in height noticable between the Showa MBZ-D01 (2001/02) and the Showa MBZ-C51 (2005/06)

Found a slightly used one from a 2006 model REALLY REALLY cheap.Want to swap it with the older one of my 2001 model (mostly for looks) :Lick


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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:44 pm 
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no, they are almost identical

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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:50 pm 
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370steve wrote:
no, they are almost identical


so the 3mm difference between the shocks is "eye to eye" ? Or the 2006 shock has just a bigger piece of metal on the bottom bracket?

In other words,will the rear of the bike be lifted by 3mm with the 2006 shock?


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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 11:59 pm 
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it is a 3 to 1 suspension ratio, so 3mm at shock = 9mm at wheel spindle, which is nothing to worry about 8o
removing one click of preload will remove that :)

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370steve wrote:
it is a 3 to 1 suspension ratio, so 3mm at shock = 9mm at wheel spindle, which is nothing to worry about 8o
removing one click of preload will remove that :)


thnx for the info steve

are all swingarms 98-06 the same?


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 Post Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:34 pm 
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are all swingarms 98-06 the same?


Although there are cosmetic and (relatively minor) technical differences between the 98-06 I think the swingarms are identical and are shared between the 98/06 bikes. Pretty sure no alterations in terms of length etc were made to the swingarm in that time.


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