Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ

Board index » The Lighter Side » Build and Serious Modification Section




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 188 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Author Message
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:56 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
HOON98 wrote:
a project can quickly turn into a money pit if you don't stick within a reasonable budget - it's already cost me a lot more than I initially planned for as I get new ideas along the way.


Haha isnt that always the way it goes with custom builds :clap :clap

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:15 pm 
Offline
Victor Meldrew
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:51 pm
Posts: 4947
Location: Worcester
I frightened myself with a spreadsheet when I did my CL175 resto. Gave up adding up all the bits in the end.

Same story with latest CB175. Just keep on buying bits week by week, don't notice it so much that way. But if I added it all up, :eek

But it's easy enough to rationalise. I could go out and spend, say, 10 grand on a new bike. Same 10 grand will go a hell of a lot further, and be a sight more interesting, spent on fixing old bikes.

Apart from actually riding it, what use is a new bike ? Polish it every weekend, been there, done that, boring.

_________________
And then one day you find
Ten years have got behind you
No one told you when to run
You missed the starting gun


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:00 am 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
richard pitman wrote:

Apart from actually riding it, what use is a new bike ? Polish it every weekend, been there, done that, boring.


yep, the new bike feeling soon wears off, and then you are left with "just another one of them"

richard pitman wrote:
I could go out and spend, say, 10 grand on a new bike. Same 10 grand will go a hell of a lot further, and be a sight more interesting, spent on fixing old bikes.


with you all the way with that. as i tried to rationalize with my ex wife when she found out that my Hornet had cost well over 12K to build "Its my hobby, i could piss my money away in the pub, or gamble it away on the horses, BUT i prefer to spend it on my bike and spend my leisure time in my shed doing what i enjoy, is that wrong?"

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:31 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
didnt manage to do much more than just look over the harness over and over again!!
tried to make sure that i had got everything where it needed to be, and all OEM connectors
going to the bits they needed to mate up with.
found out a few "discrepancies" with the Haynes book of lies (how unusual.........NOT)
will need to remove around 12-14in from the main harness, and a few unwanted wires. not a hard job, just
dull.
think i will fit the stage 3 kit to the carbs tonight, and if still in the mood will crack on with the wiring :help

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:01 pm 
Offline
Needs to get out more!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 am
Posts: 1073
Location: In The Garage
Quote:
But it's easy enough to rationalise. I could go out and spend, say, 10 grand on a new bike. Same 10 grand will go a hell of a lot further, and be a sight more interesting, spent on fixing old bikes.


Yeah totally agree, I could have put the money I've spent on my Hornet resto towards another bike but I would have learned absolutely jack about motorbikes as a result.

Instead my Hornet restoration has already taught me loads about bikes - and I'm not even halfway through yet - I have had to do tons of research on the right way to do stuff, to buy and learn how to use new tools - and what's been really suprising is that a lot of the knowledge, tools and experience I've gained is transferable and has opened up opportunities to get to grips with non-motorcycle related DIY projects I previously didn't have a clue about.

Quote:
i could piss my money away in the pub, or gamble it away on the horses, BUT i prefer to spend it on my bike and spend my leisure time in my shed doing what i enjoy


Amen to that :angel


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:22 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
got some progress on the harness, after making sure everything was connected, earth strap was sorted and shrink wrap fitted. attached the battery leads and had a test session.
LED indicators working and flashing at correct rate, main, dipped and side light working, engine turning over on the button and side stand switch functioning correctly.
so happy with the progress I left it at that for the time being, and have sat down for a can or two of Thatchers Haze :pissed

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:09 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
went to work on the harness yesterday, got to the point of no return and cut the loom in half!!!!!!!
have started on the long process of cutting every wire to length, splicing/soldering and shrink wrapping.
will be back at it again tonight.

Image
Image
Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:08 pm 
Offline
Needs to get out more!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 am
Posts: 1073
Location: In The Garage
Sterling work :clap

I really like the filter pods - much nicer looking than an airbox :D - are they going to require a lot of extra jetting, tuning etc? 8o


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:50 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
HOON98 wrote:
Sterling work :clap

I really like the filter pods - much nicer looking than an airbox :D - are they going to require a lot of extra jetting, tuning etc? 8o


Carbs have been fitted with a Dynojet stage 3 kit for the pods :)

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:21 pm 
Offline
Needs to get out more!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 am
Posts: 1073
Location: In The Garage
Quote:
Carbs have been fitted with a Dynojet stage 3 kit for the pods :)


Am I right in thinking that only the stage 1 Dynojet kit (retaining original airbox etc) is available for the Hornet? Cheers :D


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:55 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
HOON98 wrote:
Quote:
Carbs have been fitted with a Dynojet stage 3 kit for the pods :)


Am I right in thinking that only the stage 1 Dynojet kit (retaining original airbox etc) is available for the Hornet? Cheers :D


stage 1 and 2 needles are the same!! all that is different with the stage two is it has more and bigger main jets :)
i can post a pic of the fitting instructions if you want?

tonights work, getting a bit neater, should have it sorted by tomorrow

Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:24 am 
Offline
Needs to get out more!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 am
Posts: 1073
Location: In The Garage
Quote:
stage 1 and 2 needles are the same!! all that is different with the stage two is it has more and bigger main jets :)
i can post a pic of the fitting instructions if you want?


Steve - you are one of the most knowledgeable people on bikes I have ever come across on any bike forum - let alone this one - I'm in the very early stages of learning about fuelling hence my confusion regarding stage 1 and 2 etc - so I would be incredibly grateful to get your take on fitting double pod filters to the Hornet:

1. Is it possible to fit double pod filters to the Hornet and dispense with the airbox with the Dynojet stage 1 kit?

2. If so how much specialist tuning work is involved in order to get the bike to run properly across the rpm range after fitting the new
jets and pods?

3. I'd be really grateful if you could post or provide a link for the fitting instructions so that I can get my head round what's involved.

Cheers for any advice! :angel


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:20 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
Hoon,
i would always advise fitting the double pods when fitting any sort of pod to CV carbs, i fitted some CBR600F3 carbs to both my 600 and 893cc (blade) engined hornets, both were fitted with hornet stage 1 needles and bigger mains, i never had any carburetion problems that are associated with running CV's with pods.
i think the single pods are what causes most of the problems, the double pods seem to act like small air boxes :)

once fitted and running it is always worth a Dyno run to sort the fueling.

I will post up some pics of the fitting instructions when i get home :)

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:25 pm 
Offline
Needs to get out more!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 am
Posts: 1073
Location: In The Garage
Cheers Steve, much obliged! :clap

Thanks so much for clarifying the issue - I'm really keen to go ahead with the double pods conversion - this kind of info is just what I need to get the confidence to give it a go.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:42 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
Image
Image
Image
Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:21 pm 
Offline
Needs to get out more!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 am
Posts: 1073
Location: In The Garage
Cheers Steve, much appreciated :Beer


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:17 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
almost sorted, need to work out where to splice in the dash and idiot light cluster before adding some overwrap.

happy  with it so far.

Image
Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:28 am 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
set about splicing in the loom for the dash, as is always the case with things that involve thought, I got it wrong!!
I had made a quick mock up of where i wanted the wires to run, without anymore thought i cut the wires to length, fitted the waterproof connector block and got on with some other bits and bobs.
fitted a new battery to engine earth strap after cutting it to correct length and soldering a new end on.
came back to the dash, re checked the wire positioning and found that i had cut it too short FFS.
the connector had ended up too close to the tank front fitment rubber, and would cause fitment problems!!
so it was back off with the dash, remove the connector, re solder and heat shrink old wires, then re fit the connector.
now happy that the connector sat inside the frame rails behind the steering head, it was on with the cutting and splicing in of the dash.
ended the night with a functioning dash :) just need to sort out the function switch which i will wire into the "pass" switch, then that is the dash wiring done.
still need to fit the proximity censer for the speedo and splice it to the loom, and wire in the idiot light cluster. but that will be for another night.

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:01 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
spent today finishing of the dash lights and cleaning up the harness, once i had everything spliced and wrapped i covered the harness with some spiral

wrap, as i have on other builds.

need to fit a connector block for the plug coil loom, and find somewhere for the horn to live.

will sort out the rear end of the harness, fit a rear light and test that it all works back there.

Image
Image
Image
Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:50 am 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
as already mentioned, I started yesterday off with attaching a stock rear light unit ( will have it fitted till after MSVA test)
so i could do a check that all the wiring going to the rear end worked.
surprising enough everything was playing the game and worked correctly! so i now just need to get the rear mudguard fitted, light mounted and loom sorted (wires shortened)
i have ordered some throttle cable bits from Venhill, as the stock bandit cable is around 6" too short, and will also be replacing the choke inner cable as that is also too short for some reason.
havent found a home for the horn yet, but might end up under the tank somewhere, like on her big sister.
next job is to sort the stick coil loom connections, might do that tonight.

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:01 am 
Offline
Needs to get out more!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:08 am
Posts: 1073
Location: In The Garage
Like the spiral wrap - very neat.

The stick coils are a nice mod. :clap


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:51 am 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
didnt have a lot of time to play with yesterday, but still managed to fit the rear mudguard
and support brackets, have been on E-bay looking for a GS750E number plate bracket (part of the rear light bracket)
only ones that were listed were in the US, so postage made them £££££££ , after searching around i found a GS550E one in the UK, did a part No check, same part as the 750, so now waiting for it to arrive :)
will try to sort the stick coil loom connection later today.

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:25 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
these just turned up from Venhill,  lovely bit of cabling kit, so can get the throttle and choke cables both sorted now.

Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:59 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
sorted out the wires to the stick coil loom, cleaned it all up, added some waterproof connectors, just need a bit more spiral wrap (ran out)

to finish it off, added a small filter to the cam breather.

Image
Image
Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:25 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
went to work today on the oil cooler mounting bracket, had some steel flat bar that i thought would be strong enough, cut it to length and drilled some holes

Image
Image

then marked up the frame and fitted some rivnuts

Image

then it was just a case of bolting it in place

Image
Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:07 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
managed to get myself a seat lock, but it had no key with it, so after doing a web search and not finding anything that was a help in finding a key to fit, i

became a part time lock smith, found out after playing around with it that i could get the lock mechanism out without much bother.

found a key and adjusted it with some swiss files, then it was a working lock once more, just got to grease it and put it back together.


Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:11 am 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
wasnt happy with the stick coil connector being bust, even though it wont be seen and is nice and secure, it still would have got to me!!
so i have ordered some new connectors, but as i am doing it properly, i have ordered a full set of Black ones, they wont look as out of place as the white ones, and wont be so in your face obvious :)


Image

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:06 pm 
Offline
Knob Magnet
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:38 pm
Posts: 9425
Location: Catterick, North Yorkshire
Back off my holidays now, so will get on with a bit of work again soon,
got a small pile of bits now waiting for fitment sat on the bench.

_________________

370Steve


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 188 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Board index » The Lighter Side » Build and Serious Modification Section


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: