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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:34 pm 
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Right, well ive decided after getting another 2 months out of my rear (thats joe) that enough was enough, time to get on with the project.

So a couple of pictures of the bike when i took her off the road, and a couple of pictures of stuff as and when it happens.

Bike Before from the front and rear.
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And how she is pretty much now.

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Unsure on the back end yet, thinking R6, but also thinking about a '10 CBR 600 RR back end... Unsure.

Going to have the RX2N digi clocks, using a VFR800 Speedo pickup. Some have said that i will need a speedo healer, but the VFR800 is the same part as used on a fireblade.

The VFR, Blade and Hornet all use a 14t front sprocket, so why would i need a speedohealer? I thought they only converted KPH in MPH?

Anyways, will keep you all updated as it develops.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:42 pm 
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If you are using RX2 clocks, why use the VFR speedo pickup ?

Use the magnetic pickup they come with, then setup the clocks (rolling circumference of wheel) to give an accurate speedo reading, no need for speedo healer.

Those bikes you mention may well be fitted with a 14 tooth gearbox sprocket, however I doubt that they will have same final drive ratios, so speedo would read differently on each one.

Now, if you fitted VFR clocks to go with the VFR pickup, and you used the same size front AND rear sprockets on your Hornet as the VFR, that'd work.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:50 pm 
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The magnet they come with i havent seen as yet, but i just dont like the idea of a magnet attached to my front wheel. Sounds like something off of a raleigh.

But ill have a look at the it when it arrives.

I understand what your saying about the VFR Speedo pickup, but surely the sprocket still spins at the same speed at 30 as a fireblade or VFR, there for the pulse would be the same?

Surely its the clocks (if anything) that interpret this signal as something else?

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:53 pm 
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but surely the sprocket still spins at the same speed at 30 as a fireblade or VFR, there for the pulse would be the same?


It will only spin at the same speed if the rear sprocket on the 'blade or viffer is the same size as the one on your Hornet.

A bigger rear sprocket would make the front sprocket turn faster at 30 mph, and vice versa.

Regarding the magnets, I agree that a front wheel mounting does look crap. However, it can be mounted quite neatly on the rear wheel.

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Magnets in the disk mounting bolts, pickup fitted into a hole drilled in the caliper bracket.

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:26 pm 
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Never seen anything like those lights before! I like them! :D

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:32 pm 
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good lad, get it chopped!!

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 Post Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:18 pm 
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richard pitman wrote:
A bigger rear sprocket would make the front sprocket turn faster at 30 mph, and vice versa.



Richard, changing the rear sprocket makes the rear wheel spin faster/slower in relation to the front sprocket!! front sprocket would still turn
at the same speed relative to the engine revs 8o

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:22 am 
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richard pitman wrote:
Regarding the magnets, I agree that a front wheel mounting does look crap. However, it can be mounted quite neatly on the rear wheel.


Yeah to be fair that dont look to bad Rich, but will have to have a gander, as the swing arm is getting an over haul as well :D

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Never seen anything like those lights before! I like them! :D


Those lights are for sale lol, as are quite a few other bits, will get them posted up at some point.

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good lad, get it chopped!!


Its almost ready for the chop shop mate, just need to get the new subframe so i can see where to chop it exactly.

Having some right grief with one of the studs on the exhaust, any tips for getting it out? Tried a stud extractor, tried heating it, tried tw**ting it with a hammer, nothing....

Anyways, parts are starting to arrive, R1 swing arm has just arrived, going to cut the bracing off and weld it onto the standard swing arm. Dont know if this has already been done, but i suspect it has.

Looks to be a good size anyways...

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Swing arm should be done by Friday next week hopefully, if i can find the time.

Dude you free one night for a brew and some hint and tips?

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:54 pm 
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Added a thread for stuff for sale if your interested.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:13 pm 
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pm me your address mate, and ill see how far away you are and ill pop over.

a guy called banned did r1 brace on hornet swinger. worked ok, just make sure you have enough space for the shock at full compression as his brace looked way to close for my liking.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:29 pm 
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PM Sent.

Yeah had a look at the swing arm today.

Going to cut a nice little arc out the brace for the suspension to move in, noticed it looked a little close like.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:41 pm 
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i've only just started ally welding so im not good enough to help out there at the mo.lol.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:57 pm 
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Maybe you will by the time the subframe get here lol...

Dependent on which one i go for... just cant make up my mind!

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:12 pm 
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get what you like mate, same theory so we can make it work!

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:26 pm 
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Richard, changing the rear sprocket makes the rear wheel spin faster/slower in relation to the front sprocket!! front sprocket would still turn
at the same speed relative to the engine revs


Agree completely. What I am trying to convey is that the actual road speed would be different. My statement below is saying the same thing as you, but coming from the road speed point of view, rather than engine rpm. ie bigger rear sprocket, more engine revs for given (eg 30mph) speed.

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A bigger rear sprocket would make the front sprocket turn faster at 30 mph, and vice versa.

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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:03 am 
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Cjharrison wrote:
Maybe you will by the time the subframe get here lol...

Dependent on which one i go for... just cant make up my mind!


From my experience it is much better to decide what you want to do/use and
plan ahead, than make it up as you go along :help
saves you a lot of time, effort and more importantly MONEY :)

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 Post Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:33 pm 
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I know mate, its just I love the r6 arse, but love the Cbr for the underseat exhaust.

Joe's example is stunning, but I can't take my eyes off of your example.

I've literally been given a cbr subframe, so cost wise, that's free.


Thank you Steve, litrally whist making this post I've decided. Cbr it is.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:31 am 
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Right a bit more done, thanks to help from Joe (dudeskin)

Carbs out.
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Back end chopped!

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Pictured arnt great quality, will take some more once I get roll her out onto the drive and the sun is out.

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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:19 pm 
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I know no ones probably all that interested, lol, but im going to update this as more of a diary for myself ;)

Remainder of the Subframe:-

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Swing arm done:-

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Engine out friday night.

Ordered a few little things like engine paint etc etc.
Oh and stainless bolt kit.

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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:59 pm 
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Cjharrison wrote:
I know no ones probably all that interested, lol, but im going to update this as more of a diary for myself ;)

Remainder of the Subframe:-

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Swing arm done:-

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Engine out friday night.

Ordered a few little things like engine paint etc etc.
Oh and stainless bolt kit.
do me a swinging arm dude, love it

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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:35 pm 
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nice swinger chris. look forward to seeing it tomorrow.

about these brackets, im gonna make a mock version tomorrow for you just to be sure it fits the way you want it before i make it outa proper stuff.

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dudeskin wrote:
before i make it outa proper stuff.


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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:51 am 
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I'm impressed with that swing arm.

Did you weld it yourself ?

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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:10 pm 
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I wish I had mate, but I don't have the kit for Ali welding.

Dropped i down to the guys at GIA Engineering in Stapleford Nottingham.

Did a brilliant job, cost just shy of a ton. Just needs powder coating now.

Engine paint arrived today Joe, so we can paint each other... I mean the bike tonight.

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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:24 pm 
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Engine Blackening.

Before

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A few after photos:-

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In need of another coat i think, then got some blue coming for a few little highlights.
Also ordered the stainless bolt kit from mucketeer tonight, so that should look sexy once its on.

Oh Pipes have been taken down to Nottingham Metal Polishers (John) to have properly machine polished. Only £15!
New Swing arm has been taken down to John Whiteman Engineering to be powder coated, again bargain price of £15!

Should have some pictures for around wednesday / thursday.

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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:26 pm 
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Just to keep updated.

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Manifold Off

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Stainless steel bolt kit on, thanks to munketeer

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Swing arm back from powder coating.

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Manifold Polished

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Bits ready to go bad on.

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Swing arm in back in place.

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More things coming soon hopefully, will show you as and when.

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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:55 pm 
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I DO like that swingarm, looks much better than Metmachex.

Does it clear the shock on full bump ? Chain run OK ?

Mounting points for OEM R1 hugger, I guess ?

Prefer polished alloy though.

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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:24 am 
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Yeah clears the shock mate, and the chain run perfectly fine. I decided to take the chain back off, as I'm getting a gold chain and sprocket set.

The mounting points are for a OEM R1 hugger.

Would have gone polished myself, but with the engine going black, i thought it would fit in better.

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nice one dude!! looking guuuud.
just needs a nice ohlins and some rsv forks ay :angel

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Looks fantastic mate - well done :clap

What year/spec R1 swing arm is that? I may keep an eye out for one and get mind done - like Richard says - it looks better than the Metmachex one!

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- like Richard says - it looks better than the Metmachex one!


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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:40 pm 
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Sorry guys just got back from Holiday.

The R1 Swing arm was a 2002 5LL Model.

Took it to the guys at GIA and got it sorted for £80 odd quid.

Then the powder coating was done at John Whitman Powder Coaters and cost £15.

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the bracing actualy added any strenght or just for looks ? ...

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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:40 pm 
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It will have added some strength, but as the bikes still in bits haven't ridden it yet.

Was mostly added for looks.


Those interested in doing the same, be aware the standard caliper will not fit.

Upgrade to a blade rear caliper and holder, and jobs a good un.

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Cjharrison wrote:
be aware the standard caliper will not fit.

Upgrade to a blade rear caliper and holder, and jobs a good un.

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blade has the same caliper!!

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Scratch that,

You'll need a blade caliper carrier then ;)

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:14 pm 
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A few more bits done.

Fireblade Hanger and Caliper (even though I'm now informed the calliper on a hornet is the same.)

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Then Painted.

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Tank Repaired, and sanded down ready for sending away.

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Airbox Modifications:-

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Should be interesting once the engine is rebuilt, purely to see if it runs!

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 Post Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:51 am 
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You decided on the colour scheme yet chris?

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