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This thread may not be as epic as others but I'll try to keep it updated regularly.

I bought this unfinished 1998 600 project on the 1st September.

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It came with loads of spares, almost enough to finish the bike, I'll just need to buy a job lot of various sizes and lengths of stainless bolts.

I managed to pick up this lot on eBay for a good price that gave me most of the rest of the main parts needed and a couple of leftovers that I can sell on to raise money for the build.

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It came with a brand new Koso DB01-S speedo/odo/fuel gauge that had been taken out of the box and mounted but not yet wired in.
I won't be using this so it will be for sale.
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I've not done anything yet other than buy parts I know I'll need and check that the wiring loom is all working ok.
The bike came with a Datatool Veto Evo alarm on the loom and two fobs (one of which needs coding in) and I am one of those rare people that actually gets on with alarms so it will be staying. The movement sensor's sensitivity seems just about spot on.
If I accidentaly nudge the bike it doesn't go off but as soon as I stand it up enough to kick up the sidestand, it goes off.
Battery drainage is not an issue as I have an optimate.

I have bought a perfectly intact clock loom to make the wiring-in of aftermarket clocks more slick. All wiring will be soldered and heatshrunk and OEM connectors from kojaycat.co.uk will be used where possible to maintain the OEM look (rather than the butchered look :lol )

The bike also came with a private plate R222NDY (previous owner called Andy) that I may put on retention and sell on as it's meaningless to me.

Next update soon...

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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:39 pm 
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why dont you like those clocks,or are buying some a bit more special,cant wait to see updates,number plate could be randy :rollin


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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 3:00 pm 
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Having seen the for sale thread it will be good to follow this to completion, certainly looks like a good project have fun with it

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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:10 am 
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kdady84 wrote:
why dont you like those clocks,or are buying some a bit more special,cant wait to see updates,number plate could be randy :rollin

Just not my cup of tea, was originally gonna try and get hold of some standard clocks but since the set on eBay yesterday went for £230 I'm rethinking...

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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:01 pm 
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get in touch with bbctom hes selling some standard ones,dont know how much but might be worth asking :)http://www.hondahornet.org.uk/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=24407&start=40


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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:45 pm 
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How much do you want for that Koso clock ?

Looks ideal for a monkey bike ..

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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:45 pm 
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richard pitman wrote:
How much do you want for that Koso clock ?

Looks ideal for a monkey bike ..

Hmm now there's a question...
Cheapest I can find new seems to be £90 from wemoto
This is brand new, taken out of the box and mounted but never wired in or used.
I connected live and earth to light it up for the photo.
It will be in the original box with everything it came with.
I'd be after £75 with free insured postage

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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:32 am 
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Sorry, my rule of thumb is to pay no more than half original price for as new secondhand items, less tham that if they've been well used. I apply this principle to stuff I've sold, as well.

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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:45 am 
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No problem mate :)

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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Arrived today, only cost me £10+p&p which I was pleased with. Will have 3 different keys for 3 locks to start with which sucks but will keep an eye open for a reasonably priced lockset.
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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:57 pm 
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Hey mate i sent ya that info and links by PM ,but my PM box is stuffing up and says i have 1 new msg but cant open it for some reason.Oh yeah if money is no object check out these gauges ( i was original going to get them and get bracket made so they all sat side by side were original dash was. http://www.digital-speedos.co.uk/dayton ... s-34-c.asp

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:06 am 
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And here is a Engine bolt kit 98-05 Stainless to freshing up your engine ( good seller got them in post UK -Australia in 7 days. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230396784059 ... 1439.l2648 Oh ok just seen its only your left side that is looking a bit sad.

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:40 am 
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Cheers mate :)

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:46 pm 
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Today's arrivals...who wants to know what's inside? :finger :lol :rollin
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i reckon a rad or a rad guard at least :angel

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:11 pm 
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APECAR wrote:
i reckon a rad or a rad guard at least :angel

It's good...but it's not right!
Top box contains an original 16" front wheel with worn but usable Continental tyre.
Was mis-advertised as 'scooter wheel and tyre' but I recognised it. So cheap I practically stole it.
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Bottom box contains the little horde shown further up but here's a mini thumbnail you can click on to see it again :)
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Again, it would have cost me more in fuel to drive to the guys house and steal them than what I paid, sometimes you just get lucky! :D All the parts are pretty mint. Slight boot scuff on seat, minimal rust on headlight chrome surround, all original connectors still on indicators, tailpiece virtually unmarked.
The log book says Red so I may go with the original red as my colour now that I have a mint original decaled tail.
My pearl white tank will probably be sold if anyone is interested or will swap for mint red 98 tank?
I think I have everything for the build now apart from clocks and a few hundred fasteners :lol

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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 9:00 pm 
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Firemonkey wrote:
APECAR wrote:
i reckon a rad or a rad guard at least :angel

It's good...but it's not right!
Top box contains an original 16" front wheel with worn but usable Continental tyre.
Was mis-advertised as 'scooter wheel and tyre' but I recognised it. So cheap I practically stole it.
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Bottom box contains the little horde shown further up but here's a mini thumbnail you can click on to see it again :)
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Again, it would have cost me more in fuel to drive to the guys house and steal them than what I paid, sometimes you just get lucky! :D All the parts are pretty mint. Slight boot scuff on seat, minimal rust on headlight chrome surround, all original connectors still on indicators, tailpiece virtually unmarked.
The log book says Red so I may go with the original red as my colour now that I have a mint original decaled tail.
My pearl white tank will probably be sold if anyone is interested or will swap for mint red 98 tank?
I think I have everything for the build now apart from clocks and a few hundred fasteners :lol


will have to call over some time chris :) and give you a hand in the build :evil

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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:45 am 
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Had a ride over to BBC Toms in Wakefield to pick up some semi-working standard clocks.
Was good to meet another nester and those of you that have met Tom will agree what a top bloke he is. His 600 is luverly too :)

So... Here's the lowdown on the clocks as I've collected them.
The speedo and odo work but not the trip, cracked speedo face
The idiot lights work.
The rev-counter does not work and the temp gauge shows halfway regardless of temp.

What I've established by stripping the clocks down...

The trip tumblers were not locked in place as a small plastic clip was missing. This clip usually presses down on the trip reset spinner but this has snapped off. May have to find a way to hold them in place. The trip should move with the odo then but I'll still have no way of resetting it.

The tacho circuit board has cracked on one end. I may be able to bridge the connections to see if I can get the tacho working.

It looked like the wires for the temp gauge were mixed up so I've swapped them.
Will be plugging in to test Sunday afternoon :)

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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:20 am 
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hi matey. don't know if this will help but here's a photo of the back of my clocks showing wire connections. 1999 600. clicking on photo should give a larger view.
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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:32 pm 
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chris b wrote:
hi matey. don't know if this will help but here's a photo of the back of my clocks showing wire connections. 1999 600.

Cheers mate :D I take it you took this a while back? I only ask because I'm curious about the wiring for the temp gauge under the mounting bracket. These clocks are different to mine though. The clocks I have are from a 2001 and there's an extra black/brown wire taped up unused so I think it may be an earlier loom plugged into newer clocks. I do have a clock loom I bought on eBay that seems to have only the necessary wires so I'll try that and see if it fixes the temp gauge problem. If anyone else has pics of their clock wiring, please PM me a pic with the year that it's from. Thanks :)

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 Post Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:18 pm 
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Firemonkey wrote:
I'm curious about the wiring for the temp gauge

if you look at the back of the white casing there should be colour code letters telling you which wires go where

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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:54 pm 
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My clocks are different to yours mate, looks like they changed them at some point, mne are from a 2001
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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:20 pm 
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Your temp gauge wire starts near thermostat (temp sensor ) try following it from there and look what colour wire it is .

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The confusing thing is that the tacho in chris b's pic has three wires and mine only has two, the brown/black was there in my loom but taped up.
The temp gauge has three wires like Chris b's but maybe I have them in the wrong order since the stamping on the white casing doesn't really match the wire colours

Edit: I'd written 'speedo' where I meant 'tacho' doh! :Bang

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i recently bought a set of cases from someone on here which came from a 250. the white casing in your pic looks like the one i have in the garage. only 2 wires for tacho and also the depth of tacho housing is different. i also have a tacho from a 250 and side by side with the 600 tacho there is adifference in depth.

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Had a few minutes in the garage last night. I need to look at the neutral switch switch since the light does not come on on the clocks and the bike will only start with the clutch lever pulled in. At least it should be a simple and inexpensive fix at £15 for a new switch if needed.

Made a schoolboy error fitting the black plastic undertray, dropped one of the bolts down the frame tube :Bang
Any suggestions other than tipping the bloody bike upside down :lol

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dropped one of the bolts down the frame tube


Not that it helps you, but from new there is a foam insert in the box section spine, to stop that sort of thing happening.

Magnetic wand might retrieve your bolt, I have one that looks like an old style car aerial with a magnet on the end.

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 Post Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:06 pm 
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Spotted a genuine 600 tacho on eBay to fix my clocks :Pray
Won it :D
Paid for it :)
Seller posted it 8o
Never arrived :cry
Seller refunded :(
Gutted :Bang
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Firemonkey wrote:
Spotted a genuine 600 tacho on eBay to fix my clocks :Pray
Won it :D
Paid for it :)
Seller posted it 8o
Never arrived :cry
Seller refunded :(
Gutted :Bang
The end


Unlucky mate, happened to me a few times... Minus the refund >:

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Unlucky mate, happened to me a few times... Minus the refund >:

Yeah I suppose I'm lucky to have bought from a power seller. They were great. Said they hope it turns up for me eventually and to call it an early Christmas present if it does :lol

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Said they hope it turns up for me eventually and to call it an early Christmas present if it does :lol


what a legend!

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 Post Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:20 pm 
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Ok, so I've not progressed in the build but I did pick up another stack of parts that I couldn't pass up at the price :)
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I promise I'll try to make some real progress and document it soon

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Now have 17" VTR1000F front wheel, 17" hornet discs and brand new tyres.
Also bought Acumen electronic speed pick-up and gear indicator (actually bought two of these so I can put one on my 250 too)
Other recent acquisitions include mint cond. original 99 mirrors
Additionally, managed to cobble together a nice original set of clocks for less than buying a clean set off eBay

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