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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:14 am 
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Here is a little project I have bought off another member that was advertised in the for sale section :mic
I bought this unseen and as a none runner :eek so its a bit of a gamble if its any good :Pray
Those of you who don't like to gamble do not buy anything unseen as it could bite you in the arse :kissmyass
This is the bike in question..............
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On first appearances it looks ok but you have to look close up to see its had a hard life or some owners that are not quite as handy with the tools :notme

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:31 am 
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On first appearances it looks Scotts bike


But not as scruffy?

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:36 am 
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After having the bike delivered I put it away in my garage for a couple of days, its apparent its related to the Exon valdez!
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I looked for the leak and spotted this repair :eek
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This repair probably due to chain trouble was easy to spot 8o
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It looks like its not the only thing that's leaking...................
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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:55 am 
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And then there's the wiring, This looks like the bank angle sensor has been removed............
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Cut and bodged wiring.............
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Cut and joined wires into the ecu................
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more joins...............
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Something used to be here...................
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I also noticed this brake line has been trapped on the steering lock......
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Clutch cut-out removed...............
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Sleeve removed by previous owner for fault finding............
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A spare wiring loom came with the bike, happy days :)
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Until closer inspection and 3 wires have been cut at the ecu plug
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And last but not least and this really made me laugh..........
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Why didn't the previous owners take note of that :rollin

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:04 pm 
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So basically the bike was a death trap and even if you stripped it for parts you'd struggle to get your money back on the bits that are sellable?

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:06 pm 
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Ouch. I was sure this would be straight forward once you'd applied a bit of thinking - seems somwhat more involved now.
Got to be a bad (aren't they all) alarm removal but some really do butcher the loom.

Poor show on the leaks and welds - I wouldn't have expected that.

All you need now is a warmed garage and project time !

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:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :p

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:13 pm 
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bloody hell, that's PokaIceTea's old bike - I remember Fatget's litany of issues ... hope you get it sorted...

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is it time to learn the beautiful art of soldering? seriously though get a haynes crack open the wiring diagram and you should be re-wired within a day


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I would like to point out I am not responsible for any of the bodging you see here.
But I know a man who is !
Good luck with it Daryl.

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:03 pm 
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koo wrote:
woodyeee wrote:
On first appearances it looks Scotts bike


But not as scruffy?


There is a reason why it resembles my bike from 10 years ago. Loads of reject parts from my garage ended up on that bike. I would like to point out that I take no responsibility for the poor mechanical and electrical state it's in. Poke is a better mechanic than me........Obviously.

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Side stand switch, surely ?

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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:47 pm 
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richard pitman wrote:
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Side stand switch, surely ?


10 points to you for that it is indeed the side stand switch but only the two outer wires need connecting as the middle wire is for a light on the cbr dash which the hornet does not have the hornet also does not have a bank angle sensor iirc? correct me pitman?

get that soldered up as it will never run if those wires come apart


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 Post Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:04 pm 
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I have a picture on my phone of a few Hornets lined up at the Ace meet last year (October) and this bike is in there behind a 900. The guy riding it was a nice bloke (sorry crap with names) - he was thinking of moving on to a CB1000R. I think he rode the bike down from Manchester for the day.

Will post the pic in a few days - (creating a new Photobucket account and waiting for them to clear the old one first).

Definitely remember that sticker. :clap


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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:56 am 
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koo wrote:
So basically the bike was a death trap and even if you stripped it for parts you'd struggle to get your money back on the bits that are sellable?

I don't think the bikes a death trap, it just needs a little love and some parts changing.
If I broke it for parts I would easily get my money back even with my maths :p

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fv08 wrote:
Ouch. I was sure this would be straight forward once you'd applied a bit of thinking - seems somwhat more involved now.
Got to be a bad (aren't they all) alarm removal but some really do butcher the loom.

Poor show on the leaks and welds - I wouldn't have expected that.

All you need now is a warmed garage and project time !

I know people put alarms on bikes and cars for a reason but after a few years most seem to go tits up anyway without removal :help

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370steve wrote:
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :p

Thank you Steve for your support on this project :finger
P.s I will require a personal hotline to your knowledge and skills :oohlala

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jackojeff wrote:
is it time to learn the beautiful art of soldering? seriously though get a haynes crack open the wiring diagram and you should be re-wired within a day

Although I have a soldering iron and some automatic wire strippers, i think to be honest its probably better to start with a new good loom rather than chasing a possible fault after fault 8o

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fatget wrote:
I would like to point out I am not responsible for any of the bodging you see here.
But I know a man who is !
Good luck with it Daryl.

I would like to point out I'm responsible for hitting the buy button :eek

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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:13 am 
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Scott wrote:
koo wrote:
woodyeee wrote:
On first appearances it looks Scotts bike


But not as scruffy?


There is a reason why it resembles my bike from 10 years ago. Loads of reject parts from my garage ended up on that bike. I would like to point out that I take no responsibility for the poor mechanical and electrical state it's in. Poke is a better mechanic than me........Obviously.

There's a theme here Scott, my other bike had parts 10 years ago from your next doors garage :lol ...........I don't suppose the other neighbour has a lambo or Ferrari :p

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richard pitman wrote:
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Side stand switch, surely ?

It was only a guess as its in the same place as my 900, I didn't realise the 600 doesn't have one :pissed

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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:20 am 
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jackojeff wrote:
richard pitman wrote:
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Side stand switch, surely ?


10 points to you for that it is indeed the side stand switch but only the two outer wires need connecting as the middle wire is for a light on the cbr dash which the hornet does not have the hornet also does not have a bank angle sensor iirc? correct me pitman?

get that soldered up as it will never run if those wires come apart

I'm on the lookout for a new loom, but I might have to join a couple of wires if needs be :eek

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North_London_600 wrote:
I have a picture on my phone of a few Hornets lined up at the Ace meet last year (October) and this bike is in there behind a 900. I will post the The guy riding it was a nice bloke (sorry crap with names) - he was thinking of moving on to a CB1000R. I think he rode the bike down from Manchester for the day.

Will post the pic in a few days - (creating a new Photobucket account and waiting for them to clear the old one first).

Definitely remember that sticker. :clap

We do know one of the owners who used to have it and have met a few times.

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Is this any use to you ? You are welcome to it if it is.

A couple of connectors snipped of by me for use elsewhere, otherwise all present and correct.

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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:54 am 
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Thanks for the offer Richard but it now appears I shall not be needing a new loom as I have now got it sparking and running :D :D :D
I shall however tidy this old loom up properly now I have found the cause :Pray
I shall update things a little later :D

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who would have thought that such a high class racer would let
their bike get in such a state between seasons?? :rollin :rollin

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370steve wrote:
who would have thought that such a high class racer would let
their bike get in such a state between seasons?? :rollin :rollin


Bitch! :rollin

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Scott wrote:
370steve wrote:
who would have thought that such a high class racer would let
their bike get in such a state between seasons?? :rollin :rollin


Bitch! :rollin


couldnt resist :angel

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Fair play to ya mate, well done :clap

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 Post Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:08 pm 
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Daryl , stick a turbo on it , be as good as new :hat

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Daryl , stick a turbo on it , be as good as new :hat


Be careful with a turbo on that bike it’s got LAG written all over it….. 8o


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Daryl , stick a turbo on it , be as good as new :hat


Be careful with a turbo on that bike it’s got LAG written all over it….. 8o


brilliant :rollin

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I know the bloke who owned that bike he could fix anything with a paper clip and bubble gum
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Thanks for the offer Richard but it now appears I shall not be needing a new loom as I have now got it sparking and running :D :D :D
I shall however tidy this old loom up properly now I have found the cause :Pray
I shall update things a little later :D

Any chance u could tell us the cause of no spark and what u dude to fix the problem as mine has the same issue please help


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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:52 am 
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could be the ignition diode...

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Woodyee's problem was a bodged alarm removal job.

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could be the ignition diode...


As well as that 'secret' diode. there is another diode in the fuse box, in the side stand / neutral / clutch interlock circuit. I'd guess if that failed it would lead to these symptoms (Not woodyee, I'm referring to the thread hijacker. :blahblah )

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richard pitman wrote:
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could be the ignition diode...


As well as that 'secret' diode. there is another diode in the fuse box, in the side stand / neutral / clutch interlock circuit. I'd guess if that failed it would lead to these symptoms (Not woodyee, I'm referring to the thread hijacker. :blahblah )

Or, just buy a 900 like I did, simples.

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The problem was the black wire that had been cut and joined was only held together with heat shrink tubing.
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woodyeee wrote:
The problem was the black wire that had been cut and joined was only held together with heat shrink tubing.
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thank for the reply my lom hasnt been cut so gonna replace the ignition barrel sorry for hijacking thread and thank for all theinfo hopefully my hornet will be on the road by end of week


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