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 Post subject: 370 goes to the east
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:39 pm 
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My partners bike, needs a bit of work!
fork bushes and stanchion, carb, brakes :ill
so wish me luck

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370steve wrote:
My partners bike,



Bullshit alert! ! Just admit it Steve it's yours!! We will understand :lol

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 Post subject: Re: 370 goes to the east
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I hope your partner understands what you mean by 'fork bushes and stanchion, carb, brakes'...

...USD forks, 1400 engine, 190 section tyre, flat slide carbs and radial brakes on floating wavy discs...!!!!!????

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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:40 pm 
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I must admit these Chinese bikes have come on leaps and bounds in the last few years, wemoto hold some spares for them too which is nice. Makes a change from all the posh jap bikes you work on aye!

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You love a project Steve :)


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I will get round to doing something on this project soon..................................... I promise................................... Honest
soon as i get to the stage that i need something to do, in between work on the other two projects in my shed!
first thing i really need to do is find a source of parts for it, either Chinese or whatever OEM Jap motorcycle it is a copy of.
but i will pull my finger out and get some work done in the very near future :)

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You'll need to order one of these real badass motorcycle club patches :rollin

http://www.huoniao-owners.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4358

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Might have to get two :angel

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I have just joined the Huoniao 125-8 owners club :rollin :rollin
see what i can learn.
also been looking around the web for spares outlets, seems that E-bay is going to be the best bet at
the moment.
looking at it the bike is a copy of the Honda CM125, but not sure if it is at all compatible for bits interchange, but
i will have to look deeper into it, as i can only find replacement assemblies at the moment, i am in need of new fork seals and bushes, not really wanting to buy a fill set of forks for it, even if they are rather cheap at £99 for both forks.

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R1 front end slots straight in I hear :rollin

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 Post subject: Re: 370 goes to the east
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ordered some bits for my girlfreinds bike, ready for the winter make over.
new carb and new switch gear.
the new throttle cable came yesterday.
now only need to order a new side stand and bracket for the side stand along with the new forks to get it sorted.
looking to get it re sprayed if we have enough cash later in the re furb.

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have now got the switch gear, throttle cable and new carb, just needing the bracket for the side stand and the forks, and it is "job on"

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slowly getting things together, have now ordered the side stand bracket, will probably need to drop the motor
to get access to the damaged mounting point, might need to re tap the thread, or fit a coil insert to get it sorted.
I will start some work on it soon, but have work to do on both my bikes, so this make over is definatly getting done "slow time"
once most of this work is done i will order the new forks, and fit as part of the completion process.

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 Post subject: Re: 370 goes to the east
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Right, I have put things off for long enough now, cant keep ignoring the poor little thing, sat waiting for some loving of the spanner variety in the shadows of my beasts.
so i am going to make a start on the "beastett" tonight...........................................watch this space

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 Post subject: Re: 370 goes to the east
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set about it last night (gnarf gnarf) got the engine almost out, only snapped one of the four exhaust studs! but it shouldnt be a problem as it is sticking out from the head and will be easy to get a grip of.
main job to the engine is the replacement of the foot peg hanger bracket, it bolts to the bottom crankcase of the engine, it also should have the side stand bracket welded to it.
somewhere along the way in its history it has hit something with the side stand and removed it along with the bracket!!! i had thought that the bracket had taken one of the mounting bolts with it when it went, and must have pulled the threads out too, but on closer inspection the threads are un damaged, so i can just bolt the new bracket in place without the need to do a thread repair. bolt must have fallen out before the impact, result.
I will remove the engine tonight, make an attempt on the stud and see where i can go from there.

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It'll be interesting to hear what you think about the general build quality. This subject was touched upon in the thread currently running in Waffle , 'Honda got it right', but rather than cause that thread to drift further off topic thought I'd jump into this one. :lol

Probably bored folks rigid about this, ( and apolgies if I'm about to do it again) but I've had one Chinese monkey bike, and three different Lifan engines for it. Currently have a 42 year old CB175, which also has three engines, just finishing a rebuild on most recent one at the moment.

From what I can see, the biggest issue with the Chinese stuff is the actual metal that it's all made from. The monkey bike frame is made of much, for want of a better word, 'softer' steel than the old Honda frame. Tapped threads on the monkey frame fail all too easily, unlike the much 'harder' Honda metal.

Inside the engines, machining appears equally good, but the Honda parts have survived 40+ years and still look good, whilst the Chinese stuff is shedding swarf and alloy filings from the word go. The Chinese engine cases are nicely diecast, fit well and are oil tight, but again the actual alloy used doesn't seem a patch on the Honda stuff, again easy to strip threads if not very carefully.

Electrically, the Honda loom is thicker, with better connectors. Chinese switch gear is a joke, while the old Honda units are bullet proof.

Same applies to paint and chrome, old Honda stuff is way superior.

Bottom line, current Chinese bikes won't be around in 42 years time. Treated with care and given regular lubrication, no reason why a Chinese bike shouldn't give several years of good service, but no more. The same factories may well be building bikes for European manufacturers, but in those cases European QC and standards apply, no comparison with the generic local stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: 370 goes to the east
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Richard, From my observations so far you are correct about the quality of the metal,
the lack of decent connecters on the loom and the chrome/paint finish.
when i took my GS to get the MSVA test done, i got into a conversation with the main DVSA tester about
the Chinese imports, he said that he had failed all the ones brought into his test centre for their initial MOT after 3 years!!!
he put it all down to substandard quality of build and materials. :(

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 Post subject: Re: 370 goes to the east
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I definitely agree about the metals used.

On my Dad's bike it looks like the swingarm has been crushed a little after going to the shop. Not too sure whether it's total abuse of the bike or whether the stand they use simply crushed it a bit... It's about 2 months old now.


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got into a conversation with the main DVSA tester about
the Chinese imports, he said that he had failed all the ones brought into his test centre for their initial MOT after 3 years!!!


To be fair, that is probably as much a reflection on some of the muppets who buy these bikes as to the bikes themselves. My monkey bike passed three MOT tests in my hands without advisories, but I'd replaced or upgraded the dodgy bits in the first three years before the first MOT.

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have done a bit of work over the last two days, took bike apart, removed engine, went to work on removing the snapped exhaust
stud, had left it soaking in penetrating oil for the last week, took my blow gun to it tonight and a few sharp smacks from my trusty hammer
had it moving.
re fitted the engine.

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didnt like the state of the cheap bolts fitted to the engine and its mounts so in my usual manner i changed them out with nice Stainless steel socket head bolts and nylock nuts that i had sat around!

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now have just about all the bits i need to get things sorted,
new forks arrived yesterday, fitted the new carb and cable when i fitted the new throttle side switch gear, have to connect to the harness yet but need to remove the H/light to get at the connector first. couldnt be arsed at the time, so called it a night.
have had the battery on charge for the last few days, hoefully it will have enough charge to get it started, when i get round to attempting it.

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 Post subject: Re: 370 goes to the east
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This re build has now officially come to an end :(
it will be removed from my shed bit by bit, and sold of on E-blagg.




but rising from the ashes of this never finished project and following hot on its heals will be GS600, little sister to GS1157 :)
see new build thread for details 8o

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Finally come to your senses :lol

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