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Hey Hoon :)

Seeing as you're at the 'tank stage' this video has some very good tips on dressing/spraying ect tI's a long video but the first 30 mins are where the useful tips are and at the 30 minute mark there's some pin stripping going on.

I realise they're pro's but the video has great inspirational value and a wealth of tips.

Have a good day, just done an oil change and front break pad replacement on the Viffer, the fairing (one side panel) is now back on and i'm enjoying a well deserved beer (old speckled hen) :pissed

P.s. You never got what i meant when i said the cam chain tensioner key probably won't fit my Viffer... it's because it's a 2001 5th generation and last of the gear driven cam models, they went V-tec after mine using a cam chain. :angel

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 Post Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:43 pm 
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Cheers Biggabit - I'll watch the tank vid with interest (as I haven't got a clue what I'm doing lol :angel ).

Nice job on the viffer - there's nothing like maintaining you own bike for personal satisfaction - it's a key part of the motorcycling experience in my opinion.

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it's because it's a 2001 5th generation and last of the gear driven cam models, they went V-tec after mine using a cam chain.


Ah yeah - of course! I should have spotted that - particularly as it forms your sig line :angel

I think Honda made a mistake going V-Tec - as you know it made clearance checking/re-shimming more complex, time consuming and expensive if you left it to the Honda shop - basically car tech grafted onto a motorcycle.

I'm definitely drinking more beer in the hot weather. :angel


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Decisions decisions...

Nice work Hoon98 good to see you're getting on with it, have missed this thread :clap

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Cheers Biggabit - I'm trying to speed things up - will hopefully have it up on it's new tyres in the next few weeks. :D


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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:27 pm 
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I do look forward to your updates tbh! Very educational.


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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:53 pm 
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I do look forward to your updates tbh! Very educational.


Cheers anz243k :D - this re-build is educational for me too - carrying out a nuts and bolts restoration of an old bike has to be the best way to learn about motorcyles.


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What a cracking thread to read.... love the way you've included comments as captions on your photos. really looking forward to seeing how this turns oou. Keep up the good work :)


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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:10 am 
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What a cracking thread to read.... love the way you've included comments as captions on your photos. really looking forward to seeing how this turns oou. Keep up the good work :)


Cheers mate - loads more stuff to come :D


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Hey Hoon98 :angel

Was there a choice of spring strength with those K tec fork springs?

If so what did you go with? :)

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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:46 pm 
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Hey Hoon98 :angel

Was there a choice of spring strength with those K tec fork springs?

If so what did you go with? :)


Hello mate - yes there was a choice of 7.5 newtons per mm, 8.0 n/mm, 8.5 n/mm, 9.0 n/mm and 9.5 n/mm - I told the guy at Brooks Suspension my weight and explained that the bike was exclusively for road and not track use - he recommended 9.5 n/mm.

As you explained in a previous thread the actual measurement the spring rate refers to is how much weight/force is required for every mm of spring compression - so presumably 9.5 n/mm is the stiffest spring as it requires the most force to compress it?

p.s. I'm normal weight for my height - I'm not particularly lardy or anything :angel

Or maybe 9.5 n/mm was the only spring rate they had in stock and the spring rate he recommended actually has bugger all to do with my weight or usage? :angel

https://www.brooksuspension.co.uk/honda-cb600f-hornet-k-tech-fork-springs-98-04.html#customer-reviews-tab


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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:16 pm 
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Thanks mate i'm also looking at these and it seems like the way to go :)

Just a thought...

Since your forks are icomponent form and given that the Hornet front end is under damped, have you considered going the whole hog and installing 'Valve cartridge emulator valves' to help control those beefier springs?

There's a thread and vid

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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:10 am 
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Biggabit wrote:
Thanks mate i'm also looking at these and it seems like the way to go :)

Just a thought...

Since your forks are icomponent form and given that the Hornet front end is under damped, have you considered going the whole hog and installing 'Valve cartridge emulator valves' to help control those beefier springs?

There's a thread and vid


Hi Biggabit :D - yeah I've looked at the valve cartridges - but unfortunately I just can't justify the extra cost at this stage - fitting the kind of suspension set up front and rear that I would like to fit would triple my budget - in addition to parts I have had to invest in a lot of new tools to carry out a proper restoration - so I'm trying to keep a close eye on the budget and compromise where possible to keep the costs within reason - I've heard of what started as simple resto projects disappearing down rabbit holes and turning into money pits and I can now see how this happens - as your skills and knowledge increase (which was a major reason for doing this in the first place) so do the new possibilities - however - if the bike turns out really well at the end of the project in terms of performance and looks and I can see the worthwhile potential of improving the suspension then I may invest in a proper adjustable front suspension set-up and a quality after market rear shock at a later date.


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however - if the bike turns out really well at the end of the project in terms of performance and looks and I can see the worthwhile potential of improving the suspension then I may invest in a proper adjustable front suspension set-up and a quality after market rear shock at a later date.


CBR600F4i worked brilliantly on my track hornet, and the Nissin four pots fitted to them are awesome :)

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 Post Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:33 am 
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Cheers Steve - thanks for the info - I'll definitely consider that option :D


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I've heard of what started as simple resto projects disappearing down rabbit holes and turning into money pits


Yep, just started another one. Bought latest bike because it looked as though it wouldn't need much else done to it. And then one starts stripping it down, and thinking, wouldn't it look better if I just replaced this bit and that bit, then it's every evening on Ebay and the postie working overtime. :Bad

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And then one starts stripping it down, and thinking, wouldn't it look better if I just replaced this bit and that bit, then it's every evening on Ebay and the postie working overtime.


lol - this is an exact description of what's happened to me - you'll see what I mean when it's finished :angel


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That fancy tool reminds me of this geezer's Rawl bolt :)

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Biggabit wrote:
That fancy tool reminds me of this geezer's Rawl bolt :)


Love it :clap - I'd have gone down the DIY route myself but I want to speed this resto up a bit and spending an extra few days sourcing the bits and bobs would slow things down so I went the 'deluxe' route instead :angel


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HOON98 wrote:
Biggabit wrote:
That fancy tool reminds me of this geezer's Rawl bolt :)


Love it :clap - I'd have gone down the DIY route myself but I want to speed this resto up a bit and spending an extra few days sourcing the bits and bobs would slow things down so I went the 'deluxe' route instead :angel


A new tool to the collection is always a worth while investment. :)

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Hey Hoon98. forgive me if you've mentioned it but i couldn't see it.... did you have any trouble removing the ignition switch from the top yoke?

As you know i'm fitting new bearings, but at the same time i'm going fit a pair of yoke's from a 2003 bike i purchased which are in mint condition.

Will be interesting to see if the bike handles any differently with a 5mm longer wheel base and fork off set :)

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Hi Biggabit :D

I forgot to post this part of the resto up - thanks for reminding me.

Yeah - the igntion barrel is secured with a couple of 'One Way' security bolts - they have an allen head - the allen bit will grip in the clockwise tightening direction but slips when you try and undo them so that they can't be unscrewed by a thief (to get round this thieves just use a cold chisel to smash the ignition out of the top yoke).

To get a grip on the bolt in order to undo it I hammered a large Torx bit into the top of the bolt - I then used a socket and wrench to undo the bolt

I'll probably refit the ignition barrel with conventional bolts so it will be less of a faff if I have to remove the ignition barrel in the future (I secure my bike with cable and a disc lock - so if 'they' are determined enough to get past locks and a cable a couple of security bolts isn't going to stop them) - pics below:

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The method and with pictures :clap

Cheers M8 when the time comes will give it ago. :)

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Biggabit wrote:
The method and with pictures :clap

Cheers M8 when the time comes will give it ago. :)


No worries - glad to be of help :D


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Things are coming along nicely... very impressive :clap

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Cheers Biggabit :D - as they say it's all in the prep - hopefully I'll be starting to put the bike back together over the next couple of weeks.


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Your updates are too good and informative -_-


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Cheers anz243k, I'm learning so much during this resto it would be a shame not to share it. :D


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Cheers anz243k, I'm learning so much during this resto it would be a shame not to share it. :D


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While at work i noticed there were updates to Project Resurrection... waited till i got home to savour them with a cup of tea. :)

Excellent work Hoon :clap

P.s. Looking forward to seeing a 'before and after picture' on the threads conclusion.

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Cheers Biggabit :D

Loads more to come - plus I have a few after-market bodywork and equipment additions up my sleeve - watch this space :angel


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Hey Hoon, its really looks great and want to see more of this project !

Just a Q, do you think this paint will hold and you will not need a powder coating for rims etc ?
Some of my friends try to do it like that but the paint cracked very easy, ofc i am not sure what cheap spray they used :angel

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Hey Hoon, its really looks great and want to see more of this project !

Just a Q, do you think this paint will hold and you will not need a powder coating for rims etc ?
Some of my friends try to do it like that but the paint cracked very easy, ofc i am not sure what cheap spray they used :angel


Hi Spector,

I agree, If I was advising someone on their project I would recommend powder coating over painting every time, there is no question that powder coating is much, much harder wearing than any aerosol paint on the market. Although I knew beforehand that powder-coating was the orthodox and superior method I thought I would experiment with the paint based on the positive reviews and because I was looking forward to doing the job myself rather than handing it over to someone else (and because it would work out cheaper, and I wouldn't have to transport all the parts over to the powder coaters etc).

However in my personal case I'm pleased with the results I've got from the Simoniz 'Tough Paint' - with one exception.

The good news is that providing the surface is properly primed and a few decent coats of the paint have been applied the Simoniz Tough Paint appears to provide an excellent, hard, smooth satin finish on the frame, swingarm and forks etc - although I have not road tested it yet the reviews from other motorcyclists who have used the paint on their bikes has generally been positive.

Now the exception: although the paint has provided an excellent finish on the wheels there is a problem with the rims. The paint on the edges of the rims does chip easily - even though I made extra effort to ensure that the rims got extra paint coverage.

To fix the problem I've ordered a Matt Lacquer* which will hopefully give the wheels (and particularly the rims) the kind of stiff hard coating that will be needed to protect the paint underneath - I read a review by a guy who had the same problem as me and he said that the application of the lacquer cured the problem.

I'm also going to give the other parts a spray with the lacquer just in case.

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When I fitted my Firestorm front wheel, to convert from 16" to 17", I just sprayed it with ordinary Halfords gloss black car paint. Didn't bother to prime it, in fact preparation was pretty minimal from what I remember. That was a few years and a couple of tyre changes ago, still looks OK to me.

I polished the rims, which gets around the issue of chipped paint on the edges.

EDIT All my pics are still in Photobucket, really must get something sorted. On the Honda Twins forum I can load photos direct from my PC, doubt they'd be impressed if I hosted my Hornet pics there.

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