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 Post subject: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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new Muscle Bike project about to start 8o
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Blimey! It's like you've got a custom factory going on up there! :angel

When are you going to set up in business and start taking orders for bespoke muscle bikes? :D

Can't wait to see how this one develops!


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cheers mate, this one is going to be a slow build, i will start to gather bits up first :angel

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What's the frame, Suzuki ?

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richard pitman wrote:
What's the frame, Suzuki ?


Suzuki GSX1100EFE

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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have started looking for more modern suspension, i like the look of either a TL1000R or Busa swing arm, will have to do some measuring and sums when i get my hands on the bike, stock swing arm looks quite long, so the two i like the look of might be too short........................................onwards :)

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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have started looking for more modern suspension, i like the look of either a TL1000R or Busa swing arm



Just make sure it's not a swingarm from a TL1000S :halt :angel


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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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have today purchased a TL1000R swing arm assembly, should have a setup just like the hornet, so no real problems with adding shock.
looks like i should be able to use Ducati, honda or some Suzuki shocks, will just need re springing from what i can find out on the net.

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All being well, and weather permitting, i will be picking up the EFE frame and TL swing arm ( Ash, the gent, has picked it up for me  many thanks) somewhere in a car park on the M62 this afternoon!
have been digging in corners of the shed for things to throw at it once the build starts.

things i have found so far.......

Busa wheel and modified sprocket carrier ( was fitted to GS )

GSX1400 rear caliper, TLR caliper hanger, rear disc

Nissin rear Master cylinder, front wheel (was fitted to GS )

Racefit legend exhaust can and link pipe ( will be coming off GS )

B12 coils, 

so got some of what i need before we go any further. :angel

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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just got back from deepest darkest Lancashire, with my new frame and swing arm, good to meet up with Ash again, and shoot the shit for a while in the car park of a motorway service area 
bike and bits are still in the back of the car, i will get them out in the morning.

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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cleaned up and examined the TL swing arm, has been run with a very loose chain and damaged chain runner rubber,  chain has made contact with the support and spindle/bearing housing!! bike has been decked at some point in its life and got gravel rash to support on one side too.

should be able to get the damage welded and cleaned up.

found a set of crash protectors/paddock stand lifters, also dug out the Yoshi chain adjuster blocks i had. GSX1400 wheel spindle was used just for pic, but i have

a TL wheel spindle on its way. 

measured swing arm space in frame, 22.5cm, swing arm at spindle end = 23cm, so not going to be any problem getting the two bits to mate up
measured swing arms between spindles EFE = 22.5in, TL = 20.5in so not as big a difference as i first thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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phoned DVLA this afternoon for a laugh, was told that i need the following forms/documents

to get a registration

1) V55/5 registration application document............easy

2) copy of my driving licence (identity)...........easy

3) £55 registration fee............sorted

4) french log book............got

and an MOT  ...............FFS!!!!!!!!

haha there is always a hoop to jump through, so i will find an engine to fit, then "daylight" MOT, with no lights, no speedo, no nothing that isnt needed lol

see how that goes down.

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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have now got a proper TLR wheel spindle, also purchased a GSX1100 swing arm spindle, and have been given a side stand, so might be able

to have a play with swing arm and wheel fitment when the swing arm spindle arrives. 

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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phoned DVLA this afternoon for a laugh, was told that i need the following forms/documents


Saw a bargain 954 Fireblade recently on Polish plates - but was put off by potential hassle/problems registering it as a UK bike.


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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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whist down at Pro Kustom Paint dropping of my GS bits for tuch up, i had a word with Arnie about possible

ideas for the EFE, we have come up with an idea, he is going to knock up a test piece for my viewing :)

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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Had a play around with fitting the swing arm and wheel to get a feel for how it is likely to look.

seems that with the wheel ruffly placed centrally, the sprocket has lots of room for chain to frame clearance.

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might have to put some fillets into the sub frame down tubes for swing arm clearance, but not a big deal.

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think somewhere between these two should work.


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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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as of this moment, I am looking to do the following to the bike as and when i have time/cash/motivation/energy/friends/luck/................

1) nice shock unit (with hydraulic preload/length adjustment)

2) CBR1000RR front end

3) brace frame

4) full motogadget fitment

5) racefit Legends system and twin fuel filler

6) Bandit 12 motor

7) RS38 carbs

8.  Special 1  off paint .....................

thats enough day dreaming for now, promised my girlfriend that it was going to be a slow gathering of bits, for a slow build to start in two years, when i retire

from work (for the second time!!! )

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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That sounds ace - a properly stiff Bandit 12 with quality suspension - how a Bandit 12 would have been if it had been pitched at the (much) higher end of the muscle bike market - e.g. the MV Brutale.

I had a Bandit 600 years ago (I mean 600 cc - not 600 years ago . . . :angel ) - I've always wanted to have a go on one of the old air/oil cooled 12s just to see how more powerful it is than my old 6.


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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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The air cooled Bandit 1200 does sound like a brilliant choice of motor, very robust but easily tunable, cams, carbs and exhaust.

This months Practical Sportsbikes features a guy who ( heresy ! ) fits B1200 motors into Kawasaki Z1s that have knackered motors, much cheaper than rebuilding the less powerful Kwak motor. Apparently upsets the purists no end. :lol

That EFE frame does look a bit spindly from here, guess that bracing it will sort that out ?

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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Richard,
It is a very common modification to fit the B12 motor to old Kwaks, CB's and old air cooled Suzukis, they are readily available, and as you say reliable, easy to work on and very tunable :p

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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had a look around the web for suitable direct connection rear shocks, seems like a few but most need re spring for use with direct fitment.

but having had a few hornets with this type of shock fitment, i went to see what was readily available with upgrades if needed.

seems that the CB1000R is just what i am looking for, will be almost bolt on with no re spring required, i will probably buy an old second hand one just for set up purposes, best of all is that most if not all of the aftermarket performance options (ohlins, Nitron, hyperpro, biturbo) are out there for when needed.

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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swing arm spindle turned up today, correct diameter, wrong length! so Taff is going to be busy.

i will also get some top hats made for the swing arm/spindle fitment at the same time.

purchased a cheap used CB1000R shock from e-bay, to use for setting the swing arm geometry,

have got some ideas of how it is going to get fitted, spent a far bit of time studying pictures of my various hornets, fitted with various types of swing arm, to give me some good ideas of how it needs to be, but will make a real plan once i have the shock to work with.

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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made the decision to fit some 07 CBR forks to the build, one reason is the yokes fitted the GS750 frame without any modifications to the stock CBR Steering Stem, other reason is i still have a set of fork lengtheners that came off the GS600 build. so today i purchased a set of 07 yokes


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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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and today i agreed that i would buy, Tank, panels,seats,tail light, pillion rail :) all the bits that make an EFE what it is

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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have just purchased this, couldnt help myself, was a give away :)

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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been round to see Taff, getting rear swing arm spindle machined to length and top hats made for same.

steering stem bearings, CBR1000 yokes, CB1000R shock unit and other small bits are all in the post and should arrive soon.

thinking of taking the 07 forks off the GS600 build and replacing them with some 08 or even 2010+ big piston forks, and using the 07 forks on this bike.

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got call from taff, top hats and swing arm spindle now sorted and ready for collection, will go pick up tomorrow

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 Post subject: Re: Eeeeeeeeee FE
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got the top hats and spindle back, fitted and almost sorted, made a slight measurement fopar!! will need Taff to either re make one of the top hats with a thicker end, or get him to knock up a 2.5mm spacer.

otherwise all is good :)


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A lot of progress already. You don't hang around do you? :angel


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haha dont mean to do it so fast, just seems to happen that way :angel

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got the info i needed so purchased these, they will go on Avrils 600, and the 07 forks with extenders will

be getting fitted to the EFE build.


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started to play around with the set up now i have the forks and yokes. fitted the new head bearings and on with yokes, fitted the forks where they will be with the 50mm exstenders fitted.  trimmed the shock mount down a bit so the bracket would fit. added it to the frame almost where it will be mounted.

checked chain run,  will have around 1cm from frame to sprocket with wheel set central in the frame, so should end up with around 3-4mm of clearance, might have some more if i grind down some of the massive pigeon shit weld on the inside of the subframe, but hope to get away with it as is.


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had a bit of time this afternoon so played around with the shock top mount, had some 6mm steem plate, so cut it to size and drilled a nice big 20mm hole for the shock bracket.

got the grinder out and did some shapping, just needs some strengthening plates, will cut some from the left over steel.


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put an offer in on a low milage 05 bandit 12 engine

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going up to Edinburgh on Fri afternoon to collect :)


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put an order in for some mild steel tube and box section, in a couple of sizes, so i can crack on with the bracing and support
bars around the top shock mount.
played around with the rear shock, seems stiff but workable for the moment, need to turn down the damping. but otherwise the suspension is workable with the set up i am looking to use.
think i might swap the forks around tonight and fit the lengtheners.

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i asked them whilst i was there collecting the motor about the smurf cum, it is indeed a security seal, that they put on all "compleat & running" motors, as they have had a few returned with major components either missing or swapped out!!

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got new ideas on what to do with the top shock mount and stance of the bike after looking at her with some clothes on!

mount will be moving forward and up slightly, giving less of a rear jack up, but will need to get a tyre fitted to the front rim to get a better

idea of true stance.

but for now she is going to have to wait, as i want to get the BS GS sorted for the up coming spring :)

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i asked them whilst i was there collecting the motor about the smurf cum


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a security seal, that they put on all "compleat & running" motors, as they have had a few returned with major components either missing or swapped out!!


Blimey! Some people have no shame . . . :evil


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i asked them whilst i was there collecting the motor about the smurf cum


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a security seal, that they put on all "compleat & running" motors, as they have had a few returned with major components either missing or swapped out!!


Blimey! Some people have no shame . . . :evil


My thoughts exactly. There really are some w*nkers out there, spoils it for the rest of us.

Over on the Honda Twins site, a lass there bought a starter motor from a well known breaker. Before testing it, she got it cleaned up and painted, then found it didn't work and returned it. Had no end of trouble, breakers default position, based no doubt on bitter experience, was that she was trying it on, returning a different part broken part to get a refund whilst keeping the good one.

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