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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:22 pm 
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wich oil take the 99 hornet 600?
10w40 or 20w 50?

and its how much 3.8? or 3.5? with filter oil change
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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:35 pm 
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10w 40

3.8 with filter change, 3.5 just oil

I used this the last time https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorc ... prod/51682

Very good price :)

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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:52 am 
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i find i get very good results form this stuff, with lovely smooth gear changes , which i believe is the Ester it contains, anything with Ester is top stuff :angel

You even get a free can of chain lube :)

http://www.mandp.co.uk/ipone-r4000rs-10w40-4l-free-250ml-chain-spray.html

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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:11 pm 
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I've heard of these oil threads on various forums!

I use the Motul 5100 stuff. You get 5l for about £30 and that leaves a decent amount of spare oil for topups and other things.
Oh and its got the ester stuff in it aswell.


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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:58 am 
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anz243k wrote:
Oh and its got the ester stuff in it aswell.


Didnt she used to have a TV show???

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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:52 am 
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Main thing to ensure that it is motorcycle specific oil, not car oil. 10w/40 or 10w/30 in the later 600 engines.

And change it regularly, at least annually or every 4K miles, not the 8K in the service schedule.

Semi synth or fully synth, up to you, as long as its a good quality brand named stuff. Trade users (MOD ? :lol ) may buy bulk oil from lesser known brands, but they have the benefit of experience, knowing which stuff works and which doesn't.

Some say fully synth isn't suitable for road bikes. I don't agree. It might be over specified, but it certainly can't do any harm, as long as is bike specific, JASO standard.

I use this:

http://applications.castrol.com/oilselector/en_gb/c/recommendation?_ga=2.127837582.2002671343.1502174786-2002470433.1502174786&vehicleType=motorcycles-scooters-mopeds-quads-(atv)&manufacturer=honda&model=cb-(1969-)&modelType=cb-600-s-f-hornet-(1998-2004)

On my 175, I use this stuff. 5 litres is enough for 3 oil changes on that engine. M&P do this along with an oil filter for the Hornet 600.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silkolene-Comp-4-10w-40-XP-5-Litres-Motorcycle-4-Stroke-Engine-Oil-10W40-5L-/142393271552?epid=1010957625&hash=item21274ce500:g:vD4AAOSw8d5ZQCog

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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:29 am 
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I actually forgot about my oil last coupla times and ended up changing around 8k miles. Didn't feel super oily but the condition of the oil was fine and engine seems fine aswell.

I definitely prefer changing at 4-6k miles (for peace of mind) but leaving till 8k might not be the worst.


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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:40 am 
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Yes, I'm probably being over cautious.

It does depend on the bikes use. A serious commuter, racking up the miles every day, riding conservatively, 8K oil and filter changes probably fine. A bike used as a weekend toy, not doing serious miles but being thrashed, is the one that needs the more frequent changes. You read of track day riders changing their oil every outing, which seems excessive to me. But for the price of 2 or 3 tanks of fuel, oil is cheap insurance.

And then there's folk who interpret the CB/CBR 600 engines 'bullet proof' reputation as an excuse for neglecting oil changes and valve clearance checks.

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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:58 am 
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Fair point. I commute everyday. Sometimes chill ride, sometimes ride it like i stole it.
I do keep a eye on the levels and top up whenever needed.


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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:16 am 
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I used to check my oil every day when I was doing a weekly 400 mile commute (most of it motorway followed by high oil temperature slow city traffic) - just to be on the safe side and for piece of mind - generally the Hornet rarely needed topping up - whereas a Yamaha Thunderace I had would need topping up every few hundred miles or sooner if the engine was subjected to anything above a steady 7000 rpm (this was a common issue with this bike).


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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:34 pm 
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richard pitman wrote:


As a commuter mainly , Ive used the power 1 a few times ok at first , but i get poor results within a short period of time ( within 2k miles) with it, stiff gear change being the main issue, and some false neutrals,

Whenever i use oil with Ester the gear change stays smooth as silk for 3-4k miles easily.

I have used the Silkolene and that also performed better than the Castrol power 1

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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:52 pm 
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thanks all guy i have but silkolene super 4 10w40 4L 26€
now i will but the oil filter. will buy honda original i think its better then the aftermarkters


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 Post subject: Re: type of oil
 Post Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:50 pm 
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I've been using hiflo and its seemed ok so far tbh. I've put more than 20k miles on my bike and changed the oil and filter every 5-6k on average.


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